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Jenny Wen
Head of Design, Claude @ Anthropic
Head of Design for Claude at Anthropic. Former Director of Design at Figma (FigJam, Slides).
βIt's not just designers who are feeling like, "Oh yeah, we have to keep up with engineers." I think even engineers are like, "How do we keep up with ourselves?", covering product design, AI product work, and engineering tradeoffs.β
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βAnd so that's the big shift that I'm seeing. And I think I have opinions about it now, but ask me in three months and it might actually change even more.β
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8:35
βYeah. Yeah. And I think part of it is just curiosity. It feels like I have this front row seat to so much that's happening in the industry. And so a lot of it is like, yeah, our Slack is a goldmine. I...β
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15:08
βYeah, yeah. I think that is the best AI news is probably internally, if you're ever at one of these companies in the Slack.β
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15:33
βAnd yeah, I think we're a fully Claude house here. So yes, that's basically my stack.β
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19:56
βYeah. It's really annoying to be like, "Can you change this to this class?" When you can just go in and change it to a different class.β
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22:12
βYeah. And it's like chatting and talking to someone is still ... We as humans are doing it, and it's a way for us to interact in a really rich way. And now we just have this other medium to interact w...β
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33:55
βAt the max, I probably had, I think, 12, 15 designers or so, and I had a few managers as well.β
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38:13
βYeah. Yeah. And basically, I don't know, if you almost had their skillset, it would look like a block instead of a T.β
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50:24
βI mean, it's gotten a lot better in the last year or so, even. So yeah.β
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54:38
βYeah. And I think it's what makes your style of leadership stand out, or feel special to a certain person.β
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57:47
βSo an example of this is, with my last team, I feel like they would make fun of things that I would say at crits sometimes, certain phrases I would say.β
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59:14
βYeah. Yeah. That, but also if there is some energy around it, but I don't quite always understand what the energy is, it's to dive deeper and try to understand what that is.β
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