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Ethan Smith

Founder & CEO @ Graphite

CEO of Graphite, a premier SEO/growth agency. Pioneer in AEO (answer engine optimization).

β€œGetting ChatGPT to recommend your product, covering AI product work, product design, and practical product lessons.”

Career History

CompanyRoleYears
GraphiteFounder & CEO2019-present
ReforgePartner (SEO Course Instructor)~2019-present
YummlyVP of Growth / Chief Growth Officer~2011-2018

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β€œYes. So I got started in SEO in 2007, so it's been 18 years. Actually, the largest change when I got started in SEO, I got started in programmatic SEO and commerce SEO, like NexTag and Shopping.com an...”
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The ultimate guide to AEO: How to get ChatGPT to recommend your product | Ethan Smith (Graphite)

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β€œAnd that was probably the biggest shift, which is Google introduced a bunch of algorithms, Panda and similar things, to prevent you from doing spam. So essentially, you went from the SEO being spam to...”
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β€œI think that the main thing here is it is related to search, but it's a summarization of search and there's new inputs. So it's probably the second-biggest change.”
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β€œAnd I personally prefer Answer Engine Optimization versus Generative Engine Optimization, because generative, you can generate images and videos and things other than an answer. Whereas answer is more...”
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β€œSo an answer is more narrow of a definition than generative, but ultimately, it's whatever we decide is the name and the definition is what it will be.”
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β€œCompanies that we work with started in January and it started, one, because of more adoption, but two is because the answers became a bit more clickable.”
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β€œYou have maps, you have shopping carousels, you have clickable cards. So I think the clickability of the answer is increased, and then the adoption increased and that was around January.”
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β€œYeah. I agree and disagree, but the way that I think about it is anything can be optimized. You just need to understand the underlying systems and the rules of the game, and if you do that, then you c...”
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The ultimate guide to AEO: How to get ChatGPT to recommend your product | Ethan Smith (Graphite)

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β€œEventually, Google was going to say, "Huge shopping comparison sites are making 100 million auto-generated search pages and I don't like it, and I'm going to get rid of the whole category." So same th...”
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The ultimate guide to AEO: How to get ChatGPT to recommend your product | Ethan Smith (Graphite)

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β€œAnd they'll have a whole team looking at that and then they'll change your algorithm to prevent you from doing that.”
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The ultimate guide to AEO: How to get ChatGPT to recommend your product | Ethan Smith (Graphite)

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β€œYou can affect it a lot. So a specific example with Webflow is we are working with Webflow on their SEO. We're working on their content, and we're seeing a lot of wins on the Answer Engine Optimizatio...”
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The ultimate guide to AEO: How to get ChatGPT to recommend your product | Ethan Smith (Graphite)

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β€œSo the specific things that we've done there, one is just traditional SEO. So make landing pages for high-search volume keywords, like best no-code website designer.”
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The ultimate guide to AEO: How to get ChatGPT to recommend your product | Ethan Smith (Graphite)

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