Ethan Smith
Founder & CEO @ Graphite
CEO of Graphite, a premier SEO/growth agency. Pioneer in AEO (answer engine optimization).
βGetting ChatGPT to recommend your product, covering AI product work, product design, and practical product lessons.β
Career History
| Company | Role | Years |
|---|---|---|
| Graphite | Founder & CEO | 2019-present |
| Reforge | Partner (SEO Course Instructor) | ~2019-present |
| Yummly | VP of Growth / Chief Growth Officer | ~2011-2018 |
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βYes. So I got started in SEO in 2007, so it's been 18 years. Actually, the largest change when I got started in SEO, I got started in programmatic SEO and commerce SEO, like NexTag and Shopping.com an...β
The ultimate guide to AEO: How to get ChatGPT to recommend your product | Ethan Smith (Graphite)
βAnd that was probably the biggest shift, which is Google introduced a bunch of algorithms, Panda and similar things, to prevent you from doing spam. So essentially, you went from the SEO being spam to...β
The ultimate guide to AEO: How to get ChatGPT to recommend your product | Ethan Smith (Graphite)
βI think that the main thing here is it is related to search, but it's a summarization of search and there's new inputs. So it's probably the second-biggest change.β
The ultimate guide to AEO: How to get ChatGPT to recommend your product | Ethan Smith (Graphite)
βAnd I personally prefer Answer Engine Optimization versus Generative Engine Optimization, because generative, you can generate images and videos and things other than an answer. Whereas answer is more...β
The ultimate guide to AEO: How to get ChatGPT to recommend your product | Ethan Smith (Graphite)
βSo an answer is more narrow of a definition than generative, but ultimately, it's whatever we decide is the name and the definition is what it will be.β
The ultimate guide to AEO: How to get ChatGPT to recommend your product | Ethan Smith (Graphite)
βCompanies that we work with started in January and it started, one, because of more adoption, but two is because the answers became a bit more clickable.β
The ultimate guide to AEO: How to get ChatGPT to recommend your product | Ethan Smith (Graphite)
βYou have maps, you have shopping carousels, you have clickable cards. So I think the clickability of the answer is increased, and then the adoption increased and that was around January.β
The ultimate guide to AEO: How to get ChatGPT to recommend your product | Ethan Smith (Graphite)
βYeah. I agree and disagree, but the way that I think about it is anything can be optimized. You just need to understand the underlying systems and the rules of the game, and if you do that, then you c...β
The ultimate guide to AEO: How to get ChatGPT to recommend your product | Ethan Smith (Graphite)
βEventually, Google was going to say, "Huge shopping comparison sites are making 100 million auto-generated search pages and I don't like it, and I'm going to get rid of the whole category." So same th...β
The ultimate guide to AEO: How to get ChatGPT to recommend your product | Ethan Smith (Graphite)
βAnd they'll have a whole team looking at that and then they'll change your algorithm to prevent you from doing that.β
The ultimate guide to AEO: How to get ChatGPT to recommend your product | Ethan Smith (Graphite)
βYou can affect it a lot. So a specific example with Webflow is we are working with Webflow on their SEO. We're working on their content, and we're seeing a lot of wins on the Answer Engine Optimizatio...β
The ultimate guide to AEO: How to get ChatGPT to recommend your product | Ethan Smith (Graphite)
βSo the specific things that we've done there, one is just traditional SEO. So make landing pages for high-search volume keywords, like best no-code website designer.β
The ultimate guide to AEO: How to get ChatGPT to recommend your product | Ethan Smith (Graphite)