Ben Horowitz

“All right, thank you Lenny. Excited to be here.”

“Three hours on Joe Rogan that day. He is very-”

“You don't really have a choice. That's true.”

“And so often, and I would say early in a CEO's career, a lot of it is just not knowing how to have the conversation.”

“My business partner Mark always talks about that. So if you have a product that forces you to build a company, that is a great case of it, right? Okay, you built something and the world wants it and y...”

“Oh yeah, yeah. So understand, he had just become CEO. So I was teaching him, he had been VP of Engineering and CEO is different. And I'll get into why and what I mean by leverage.”

“And so the idea that you're going to take somebody who isn't world-class at marketing and make and you them world class and you don't know anything about marketing, is a dumb idea. It just doesn't wor...”

“But as a CEO, it's not like you don't do any of it, but it is very, very small compared to it. So I like to make things just very stark. So you get what I'm saying? I don't like to hedge it.”

“There's a very consistent thing that happens, which is when somebody doesn't make it and it kind of starts with confidence is the way I would put it.”

“And so now you've got a political dysfunctional organization and that's generally where, okay, the founder probably can't run this thing anymore. That's how it happens.”

“Well, the common startup wisdom keeps changing. One of the early ones that was wrong, and Brian articulated it, and then now I think a little bit of what people have gone to is also wrong.”

“There's a lot of depth to these things. You have to know the answer to the next question, the next question and the next question, and it does drive me crazy. One of the funnier things that happened a...”